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The War Room (04/01/2024)

Welcome to the 1st installment of The War Room for the 2024 offseason! Hope everyone had a Happy Easter! As always, I'll begin this session with the ground rules for those that may be new. Everything that is reported in The War Room must stay in The War Room. Sometimes the info is sensitive enough that it simply doesn't need to be passed on beyond the doors of this message board thread. This is a special feature for our subscribers only. The reason why it is posted on the premium board is because that's the only way to ensure that the info stays exclusive to Dayton Flyer fans. Thanks for your cooperation. Without further ado, here it is.... The 1st edition of the War Room for 2024!

WRAP ON THE SEASON
It wouldn't be appropriate to start the off-season without putting a bow on the season that was just completed. Here's my disclaimer: this is my opinion, and only my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but take it for what it is worth. When we entered the season, expectations with DaRon Holmes II coming back was that Dayton would win the Atlantic 10 and get back to the NCAA tournament.

Less than 10 minutes into the season, Dayton lost starting point guard Mali Smith to a knee injury. Certainly this was a big hit because of the experience he brought, the toughness he plays with, the leadership he brings. It also was a big hit because it chipped away at the depth and forced others to play more at the point guard spot. Namely, Javon Bennett filled in admirably before he injured his hand towards the end of the season. He was nowhere near perfect, but he was suitable and brought some steadiness to that position when it could have been a devastating injury to the team.

They didn't win the Atlantic 10 regular season crown, but they did earn a double bye. They didn't advance in the A10 tournament, but they did lose to the eventual champion. All of that says one thing, they didn't hit two of their goals. They did make the NCAA tournament as an at large, which was the main goal. With the help of their three-point shooting, they were able to win a game and advance as well. Although they didn't beat Arizona, I thought they competed and played very well against the Wildcats and left me feeling good about the 33 games they played this season. As a team, and as I predicted in the pre-season, they shot an impressive 39.9% from three-point range!

I was a little disappointed that they didn't play more guys in their rotationr, but NC State is proving you don't need depth to go far in the NCAA tournament. I would have liked to have seen Marvel Allen some this season, but I get why he red-shirted after hearing he was very far behind after his injury and you want to manage expectations so one doesn't get disgruntled. Overall, I thought it was a very successful season with all things considered. Advancing in the NCAA tournament, certainly helps that feeling about the 2023-2024 (and it doesn't hurt in how they did it) and carries obvious momentum into the off-season.

MEETINGS
I am being told that end-of-year meetings will begin this week as both the coaches and players were awarded some time last week while they were on break. With that being said, I expect to start hearing about any current players that want to enter the portal this week.

I am not going to speculate on any names, but I am expecting Dayton to have at least 4-5 open scholarships to shop with this Spring. That includes Brady Uhl's scholarship as they does not auto-renew like some speculated. It also includes Zimi's scholarship after he had already hit the portal.

Koby Brea, the nation's top three-point shooter, will likely be the biggest priority this off-season as he will be a victim of some heavy backdoor recruiting. Folks I have spoke to feel pretty good about Brea returning as both he and his family really love the coaching staff and the University of Dayton. I also believe he's going to be in line to get a substatial bump in NIL pay so make sure everyone that can give, helps out the Dayton 6th. "Most important recruit is the one that's already in your program."

Outside targets. I would also expect Zoom meetings to begin at some point this week with the coaches back in the office. A few names that I have heard so far include Charleston's Ante Brzovic (as previously reported), Providence's Garwey Dual, Furman's Alex Williams, and Toledo's Ra'heim Moss. I am sure there are a few more that they have prioritized, but those are the ones I heard early on.

You best believe that Chris Mack is going to do all he can to make sure Brzovic goes back to Charleston. Williams is a Xenia native that graduated from Moeller that averaged 13.2 points and 4.8 rebounds this season for the Purple Paladins. He shot the three ball exceptionally well going 59-148 (39.9%). At 6-5, 235, he'd provide some muscle with the ability to stretch the floor. Garwey needs no introduction as he fits the model of AG getting a guy the second time around after visiting a couple times during high school. Moss, a Springfield native, has started 101 of 102 games (last three season) for the Rockets and averaged 15.6 ppg and shot 30.8% from three in 2023-2024. Things should start heating up as the week goes on!

FIVE DEUCE
The biggest question last off-season was whether or not DaRon Holmes II would return for another season after going through NBA workouts. I felt pretty good that he would return and that ended up being the case. That same question is looming currently, and while I think he could use another year and capitalize himself even more, I think the chance of him coming back is less than 20%. From what I am told, there is likely going to be a sit down with Deuce and his family face-to-face that will likely be a strong NIL offer that he and his family will have to think about. Kudos to the 5-7 big donors at Dayton, who helped bring DaRon back for his junior year and it will have to be even stronger to convince him of one more year.

Regardless if he does come back or not, I think the coaches will have to bring in an impact five that can be a starter or be capable of playing heavy minutes with Deuce on the floor at the same time (and obviously provide minutes when Holmes needs a breather). Being able to go land a big through the portal always presents challenges, heck even John Calipari has the Big Blue brand behind him and has issues with it.

Dayton, however, has history. They've now shown that they can develop NBA talent in the front court and do it now consistently. Larry Sanders, JaMychal Green, Al Horford, Joakim Noah, Darnell Harvey, Udonis Haslem, Mo Speights, Chris Richards, David Lee, Kostas (technically), Obi Toppin, Toumani Camara, and now Deuce. That's a lot of proof in the pudding!

I really think that Dayton is going to have an opportunity to land a big time center if Deuce leaves and the money is freed up. I think if he comes back, they're going to go out and get one still, but they're likely not going to have the type of ammunition to land their next potential first rounder.

SCRIMMAGE
It was pretty much a done deal that Ohio State was going to come back to UD Arena next season if Chris Holtmann was still coach. It was a very successful first scrimmage in 2023 for Mental Health, celebrating Jay's Light. With Holtmann gone, it's not 100%, but I'm hearing it's still quite likely that Ohio State comes to UD again in 2024 under Jake Diebler. There was also talks of possibly playing Kentucky if Ohio State didn't want to run it back.

I'm hearing that Xavier and Kansas were other teams that were discussed as possible opponents at one time. I'm still hearing that Dayton would eventually like to get this to be a regular season doubleheader similar to the Jimmy V Classic, but with all games obviously played at UD Arena. It would make for a home game for the Flyers against a quality opponent and then a neutral site game for two other high majors. This would be in addition to the Thankgiving exempt tournaments. Would also make scheduling a lot easier and I am sure that Dayton would still like to get that one game neutral floor game in Chicago like they've done in the past.

One thing a regular season doubleheader would also do is make it easier to be picked up by a big network. You know that Dayton officials would like nothing more than to find a way to get these games televised on Fox Sports or FS1, the TV network tied to the Big East. It might make it easier if three other non-A10 schools are involved in the event as Dayton hosting one game was the reason why the scrimmage was relegated to ESPN+.

Dayton is definitely trending upward with all that Neil Sullivan and the basketball program have been doing. When UCONN eventually bounces from the Big East (it will definitely happen), you better believe that Dayton is on the short list of replacing the Huskies. Well, nobody is going to replace the Huskies, but Dayton will be a good position to fill that void.

The War Room (4/11/2024)

Welcome to the 2nd installment of The War Room for the 2024 offseason! As always, I'll begin this session with the ground rules for those that may be new. Everything that is reported in The War Room must stay in The War Room. Sometimes the info is sensitive enough that it simply doesn't need to be passed on beyond the doors of this message board thread. This is a special feature for our subscribers only. The reason why it is posted on the premium board is because that's the only way to ensure that the info stays exclusive to Dayton Flyer fans. Thanks for your cooperation. Without further ado, here it is.... The 2nd edition of the War Room for 2024!

TOLL BOOTH

The Dayton Flyers held their first post-Final Four Zoom call on Wednesday when they met with Notre Dame transfer Carey Booth. Booth, of course, is the son of Calvin Booth. I was in attendance for the NIT game where Booth recorded the only Triple-Double in UD Arena history with 19 points, 10 rebounds, and 10 blocked shots.

The younger Booth just completed his freshman season at Notre Dame, starting in 19 of 33 games for the Irish. The 6-10 forward averaged 6.4 points and 4.3 rebounds in just under 20 minutes per game. The one glaring stat that stands out is that he shot 118 three-pointers on the season, that’s the third most for Notre Dame and 61.4% of his field goal attempts. Although he only connected on 29.7% in his first season, he’s showing the confidence and the ability to stretch the floor. He’s going to improve throughout his college career, and we’ve seen big man at Dayton improve their long-range percentages under Anthony Grant.

Dayton hosted Carey and his father on a Zoom call yesterday afternoon. According to sources, the call was said to go well and the next step is to hopefully setup a visit to Dayton’s campus.

Booth is said to be taking an official visit this weekend to Illinois and then Colorado State immediately after. Dayton may try to get him in next week sometime for an official visit. Others showing interest include Ohio State, Texas, and Washington.

NOT SUPERMAN

Different Kent than Clark. The Dayton Flyers are in pursuit of 6-8 wing forward Jayson Kent, who is originally from Illinois. The junior averaged a near double-double at 13.5 points per game and 8.1 rebounds. He didn’t shoot a lot of threes, but connected at a respectable 36.6% clip.

This season, he posted 10 double-doubles and had another game against Drake where he only scored six points, but he grabbed 20 rebounds! He started 37 of 38 games for the Sycamores and played over 30 minutes per game. He started his career at Bradley University.

The big competition currently seems to be Texas, who he will make an official visit to this weekend. This seems to be a pattern, everyone Dayton is targeting they are going up against some heavy hitters.

The Flyers will likely try to setup a Zoom with him soon with the hopes the exploratory conversation goes well and perhaps they can get him on campus soon as well.

HE’S THE KEY

I’ve been told that ever since Zed Key entered the portal that Dayton has made him a huge priority. So much so that they’ve skipped any Zoom’s with him and are planning to bring him in on Friday for an official visit.

He entered the transfer portal on April 5th and will have one year of eligibility remaining. He was a starter for two seasons at Ohio State before coming off the bench this season. In his reserve role, he averaged 6.6 points and 4.1 rebounds for the Buckeyes.

The highlight of his time in Columbus came when he scored 20 points in an upset win over #1 Duke. While his role diminished over the years, he still has had an impact on winning—something this coaching staff values immensely.

Others that have prioritized him since hopping in the portal include Akron, Boston College, Minnesota, Murray State, VCU, Wisconsin, and Xavier. Dayton is obviously hoping to have a terrific visit with Key and hope that this one visit is enough to land him. Realistically, it will probably take one more and then he could decide.

NIL UPDATE

The more I’ve got to know about how Dayton 6th operates, the more I appreciate that they do things right. As I understand it, there has to be a quid pro quo—a.k.a. the player needs to be able to provide a service to get paid. For example, they may have to show up to a kid’s birthday party of a donor, or they may have to sign some autographs, etc. Not all schools do it that way, and some cross the line of doing the “Pay to Play” thing.

I wanted to share some stories that I heard over the course of this season where Dayton 6th went above and beyond to help out the Dayton basketball players. There, was of course, the well publicized story about Kobe Elvis’ mom and brother being flown in for Senior Night. He had done some work in December when he was back in Canada to ensure that this would be a possibility.

That same game, Dayton 6th was able to help DaRon Holmes II host 40 family members for the VCU game. How about in Brooklyn, they helped get 100 tickets for the A10 tournament for Koby Brea’s family and friends. They also helped various players get their families to Brooklyn and Salt Lake City for the NCAA tournament.

This is where the dark cloud that surrounds the NIL needs to be overshadowed. When collectives use the NIL in correct ways, when the athletes need them most, these are the stories that need to be shared. So donors have confidence that their money is being used the correct way. This is why Dayton 6th has gained so much respect from the UD players and coaches and should lend some reassurance that your donations are being used in a way to help the student athletes we all care about so much.

ONE MORE THING

UD and Dayton 6th will do all they can to make sure that DaRon Holmes II decision will be strictly a basketball decision and not an economic decision. At the same time, Dayton has to be and is hitting the portal as if he is going—they can’t afford to do it any other way.

CLOSING
That does it for this edition of the War Room! Thank you to all of you… You are what makes this board so special and the best place to talk Dayton basketball all year round! A special welcome to all of those that have signed up for FlyerHoops recently, hope you’re enjoying all the nuggets, tidbits, etc that the site and forum provides. I watched the last seven minutes of the Nevada game again this morning, I can’t get enough! I suggest a random replay of that game any time you can. Until next time… WE ARE!

Tourney Observation

One thing both Hurley & Painter keep referencing … you need to build a culture to have sustainable success. They want players/parents who are bought into the “team” and aren’t going to run from adversity. I think as fans we sometimes forget how important it is to get high caliber individuals who have a team first approach instead of players who are thinking about themselves. This only reassures me we have the right HC in place. If anything, we know AG always puts the team first.

Also, this UConn team might be the best team of all-time. They completely steam rolled the competition all season.

UConn on the clock ….let’s hope the door opens.

I have always thought it was a matter of time before Dayton was invited into the Big East. The announcement of Colorado last nite to the Big 12 will start a new set of dominos to fall. Brett Yormark the commissioner of the BIg 12 is a brilliant guy an out of the box thinker saving a Conference that many had left for dead. The TV deal with the PAC 12 did not go as well as expected and now we will see 3 more schools move to the BIg 12. UCONN is on the clock, will they take the money and make the move. I believe they will and leave an open spot in the BIg East. Dana Oneill who is connected thinks it will be Dayton if UConn bolts. Regardless the BIg East will need to expand and increase their TV deal to assure they don’t lose the likes of Nova and or Creighton if Yormark follows thru with basketball on;y schools, ie Gonzaga. Now does the BIg East have the stones to bring in Gonzaga despite the travel ? should be an interesting August.

2023/4 Stats

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1st half 3:23 - 0:14 Cheeks, Brea, Elvis, Holmes, Santos +11
2nd half 9:27 - 4:58 Cheeks, Elvis, Bennett, Jack, Padegimas +8

Game +/- Total, PPM
Cheeks, 17, 0.486
Holmes 15, 0.484
Elvis 13, 0.394
Bennett 13, 0.57
Jack 6, 0.75
Padegimas 6, 0.462
Santos 5, 0.1515
Brea 4, 0.222
Smith 1, 0.143

Defensive +/- PPM
Jack 0.88
Smith 1.00
Cheeks 1.11
Holmes 1.13
Bennett 1.13
Elvis 1.18
Brea 1.22
Santos 1.30
Padegimas 1.31

Offensive +/- PPM
Padegimas 1.769
Bennett 1.696
Jack 1.625
Holmes 1.613
Cheeks 1.6
Elvis 1.576
Santos 1.455
Brea 1.444
Smith 1.143

Efficiency PPM
Jack 0.75
Holmes 0.677
Santos 0.515
Bennett 0.391
Elvis 0.333
Padegimas 0.308
Cheeks 0.257
Smith 0.143
Brea 0.111
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